tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-451271892473686275.post118581738867499352..comments2023-08-24T06:43:12.127-04:00Comments on The Tufted Titmouse: Homeopathy: the p-Value ArgumentDr Benwayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01487095207583971575noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-451271892473686275.post-27445151679587516082009-04-06T09:23:00.000-04:002009-04-06T09:23:00.000-04:00Hey Dr. A,I'm working my way through your links. ...Hey Dr. A,<BR/><BR/>I'm working my way through your links. Unfortunately, SBM has been crashing a lot over the past 24 hours. And today I'm booked to the teeth.<BR/><BR/>I think the p-value argument has one advantage: it can be stated in a way that retarded people, middling bureaucrats, and even doctors can understand. "Bayesian" anything frightens them.<BR/><BR/>Here's the middling bureaucrat version: "If it's got any physics in it, it's NSF not NIH. Thanks for your call. Buh-bye."Dr Benwayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01487095207583971575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-451271892473686275.post-20375851156116973352009-04-05T13:31:00.000-04:002009-04-05T13:31:00.000-04:00Dr. B,Please see my comment on SBM:http://www.scie...Dr. B,<BR/><BR/>Please see my comment on SBM:<BR/><BR/>http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=438#comment-16749Kimball Atwood, MDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16730600565983594548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-451271892473686275.post-77864773609502955212009-04-05T13:01:00.000-04:002009-04-05T13:01:00.000-04:00What a fascinating argument: homeopathy is a physi...What a fascinating argument: homeopathy is a <I>physics</I> problem.<BR/><BR/>Also, I have always understood 1/20 significance to be nothing special. It is simply an indication that you don't necessarily throw the data away. To be sure you have an effect, it is usual to require p=0.001, or 1/1000 chance of the effect being random. Funding something at the 1/20 level means you are going to waste a lot of money. Which I guess is what happens.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-451271892473686275.post-48537575370665715942009-04-04T00:03:00.000-04:002009-04-04T00:03:00.000-04:00LOL. The homeopaths occasionally reach marginal s...LOL. The homeopaths occasionally reach marginal significance at 1/20. And they're still trying, thanks to our tax dollars.<BR/><BR/>I think if it were clear that they need results beyond a 1/10000 significance level, they'd be forced to throw in the towel.Dr Benwayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01487095207583971575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-451271892473686275.post-5979498066349507662009-04-03T23:18:00.000-04:002009-04-03T23:18:00.000-04:00Intrigueing, I hadn't heard the P value argument b...Intrigueing, I hadn't heard the P value argument before. <BR/>I don't know that it's entirely helpful though - homeopathy's claims aren't verifiable at the 1/20 P value as it is. <BR/>Haven't they moved on from classical water memory to quantum woo?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com